Legislature(1999 - 2000)

04/10/2000 02:15 PM House FIN

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HOUSE BILL NO. 58                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
An Act relating to certain audits regarding oil and gas                                                                         
royalty and net profits and to audits regarding costs                                                                           
relating to exploration incentive credits and oil and                                                                           
gas exploration licenses; and providing for an                                                                                  
effective date.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN BANKS, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), DIVISION OF OIL                                                                    
AND GAS, DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES, ANCHORAGE, stated                                                                     
that the bill would transfer oil and gas royalty audit                                                                          
functions from the Department of Revenue (DOR) to the                                                                           
Department of Natural Resources (DNR).  He noted that it                                                                        
would make sense to put tile audit duties in the same                                                                           
department that administers, enforces, and is most                                                                              
knowledgeable with the oil and gas-leasing program.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Banks pointed out that the audit functions previously                                                                       
rested with the Department of Natural Resources, but was                                                                        
switched to Department of Revenue in 1980 based on a                                                                            
legislative audit report.  That recommendation stated that                                                                      
cost savings would be achieved by having one staff of                                                                           
auditors review both tax and royalty compliance information.                                                                    
Since 1980, however, the State has entered into royalty                                                                         
settlements with the North Slope producers and have made                                                                        
changes to tax regulations.  As a result, there is no longer                                                                    
as much overlap between royalty and tax audits.  Separating                                                                     
Department of Natural Resources duties to administer and                                                                        
enforce oil and gas contracts, agreements, and leases from                                                                      
the Department's ability to conduct audits leading to                                                                           
possible enforcement actions, has resulted in inefficiencies                                                                    
and other problems.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Banks noted that HB 58 would authorize DNR to audit                                                                         
reports and costs relating to exploration incentive credits                                                                     
and oil and gas licenses. It also grants the Department                                                                         
audit powers commensurate to those of DOR currently,                                                                            
including the right to subpoena information for audit                                                                           
purposes.  The two departments would be allowed to exchange                                                                     
confidential information obtained in the course of their                                                                        
respective audits.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Banks pointed out that language on Page 2, Section 2,                                                                       
"by an agreement with the department or by                                                                                      
AS38.05.035(a)(9), AS 41,09.010(d)" was inadvertently                                                                           
deleted in the proposed version of the legislation.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Therriault MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #1, which would                                                                    
insert after "required" on Page 2, Line 9, "by an agreement                                                                     
with the department or by AS38.05.035(a)(9), AS                                                                                 
41,09.010(d)".  There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CAROL CARROLL, DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF SUPPORT SERVICES,                                                                          
DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES, observed that the                                                                              
Department had submitted Amendment #2.  Ms. Carroll                                                                             
explained that the amendment would correct a law in the                                                                         
public notice law section by removing the notice requirement                                                                    
for final decisions in oil and gas lease sales.  The                                                                            
amendment would correct a problem by removing a separate                                                                        
requirement for notice for the final decision.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
JAMES HANSON, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), LEASE SALE                                                                        
MANAGER, DIVISION OF OIL AND GAS, DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL                                                                         
RESOURCES, pointed out that the notice requirement is                                                                           
redundant.  He explained that 180 days before the sale, the                                                                     
Department issues a preliminary finding.  There is a public                                                                     
comment period following that.  When the finding is noticed,                                                                    
the public is informed when the final finding will be                                                                           
issued.  At the time the final finding is issued, the notice                                                                    
of sale lets the pubic know that the appeal process is not                                                                      
agreeing with the decision to go forward with the sale.  The                                                                    
30-day notice prior to that finding is simply restating what                                                                    
was already said when the preliminary finding came out.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative J. Davies asked if that was a current                                                                            
requirement in statute to be done.  Mr. Hanson replied that                                                                     
the requirement is that they issue a notice of the                                                                              
preliminary finding and included in that notice is when the                                                                     
final notice would become available.  Representative J.                                                                         
Davies did not understand the redundancy.  He asked what                                                                        
language would the Department be comfortable including.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Phillips requested further testimony to                                                                          
address any changes which the language could cause.                                                                             
Representative Grussendorf commented that the language of                                                                       
the preliminary findings might not affect the final                                                                             
findings.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Therriault agreed that the change could cause                                                                          
confusion.  Mr. Hanson pointed out that the notice which the                                                                    
Division is trying to eliminate, would be after the comment                                                                     
period.  The public comment period lasts from 60-90 days                                                                        
after the preliminary findings.  He stressed that it would                                                                      
be "way beyond" the public comment period and serves no                                                                         
purpose in the bill.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Therriault advised that it was his intent to hold                                                                      
the bill in Committee to address the proposed language                                                                          
change.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Carroll interjected that if the amendment were going to                                                                     
delay the bill, the Department would request to withdraw the                                                                    
proposal to change that language.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
HB 58 was HELD in Committee for further consideration.                                                                          

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